Re: What Version of Toad Should We Use?

I like 9.6; apart from a couple of annoying bugs (menus sticking around after you've clicked on the drop down button and not disappearing when you click off them (use Alt instead) and CLOBS causing the col width to go wide when it didn't use to in 9.0 and before), it's the most stable version I've ever used; gone are the frequent crashes and access violations. 9.7 has a few annoying features all of its own that make me want to switch back to 9.6, primarily the fact that search-and-replace no longer seems to work in the editor. *HIGHLY* annoying *{:-( I've already recommended people to go to 9.6 purely for the stability thing!

Re: What Version of Toad Should We Use?

Have you reported the search and replace issue either to support of via the Toad Yahoo group discussion board - which is manned by our developers? Because it's far better to get issues like that fixed (or learn what's new in their mode of operation) rather than reverting to old versions. Because some day 9.6 may not be viable - so it's better to make the current Toad work the way you need/like so as to stay current :)

Re: What Version of Toad Should We Use?

Sure, it's usually better to move forwards than backwards, but 9.7 is also less stable than 9.6 - I'm getting more access violations than before. I've raised Toad's stability and memory-leak proneness to support before now (admittedly when I was on version 9.0.1.8 (iirc) and 9.6 is a country mile away from being as unstable as that!) yet they informed me they'd never ever heard of anything like that about Toad. If that's the case, why does pretty much every developer I've met who's ever used Toad complained or sympathised with me about the poor stability?! If I can work out how to post on the Yahoo group again, I will do re. the 9.7 search and replace, but it's pretty poor that that functionality no longer works, and also that the program is now less stable (although not as bad as previous versions!). That's not going forwards, to me - it's going backwards! (This sounds like I hate Toad; I don't, I think it's a great product, but with some highly annoying "features"! *{;-) )

Re: What Version of Toad Should We Use?

I'm willing to work with you (and will get the product and development managers involved as well) to fix your concerns. But we cannot read minds. If you truly want the issues fixed, you're going to have to spend time with us to identify what is broken in search and replace, and why you're having so many crashes. We cannot just guess on such issues - we need a divining road (i.e. you). We cannot fix things unless we have details - so if you truly love Toad, this is how to make it better. That's exactly why we have the yahoo group - you get direct access to the toad developers who read, ask questions, and then fix what people tell them. But it requires lots of effort on your part too - because the comment about "if I can get yahoo working again" worries me. Our developers will not be able to address posts that just say I hate the way X now works or it just crashes too much. With no details, they will just ignore the post. But when given help - they bust their behinds to fix stuff - and then make the fixes available in betas far before GA releases so you can test the results (and correct them) far in advance.

Re: What Version of Toad Should We Use?

This might sound like a silly question, but did you UPGRADE your previous version of Toad or do a complete new install? Support sometimes recommends you do this if you have stability issues so that you're not carrying over files from successive previous versions of Toad and possibly causing problems with your current Toad. Toad 9.7 is our most stable release to date (based on far fewer support cases) so I'm concerned that you are having problems. John Pocknell